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Post by JBHII on Oct 12, 2004 7:27:41 GMT -5
Today I'm going to have a Pepsi and a smile! ;D What's on your wrist? John
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Post by Aaron on Oct 12, 2004 8:14:44 GMT -5
That is a fantastic shot however that watch looks as if it needs a link taken out of the bracelet.No wait it just on a diet ......... Pepsi. ;D Wrist check Seamaster 22545000 Cheers aaron
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Post by JBHII on Oct 12, 2004 9:21:32 GMT -5
That is a fantastic shot however that watch looks as if it needs a link taken out of the bracelet.No wait it just on a diet ......... Pepsi. ;D Wrist check Seamaster 22545000 Cheers aaron Thanks! I've actually moved the fine adjustment pin in one notch to tighten all my bands....seems the colder weather makes my wrist shrink up a bit. I look forward to seeing your put to use some of those photo hints so we can see some pics from you! John
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Post by MikeS on Oct 12, 2004 9:24:52 GMT -5
Today I'm going to have a Pepsi and a smile! ;D What's on your wrist? John TADAAAAA!
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Post by Pat McCarthy on Oct 12, 2004 9:43:41 GMT -5
Ball Watch Co. Official Railroad Standard Pocket Watch This is a 16s, 19 jewel, RR grade watch, adjusted to 6 positions, circa 1908. It is more accurate than my Omega Railmaster!
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Post by JBHII on Oct 12, 2004 10:11:20 GMT -5
Ball Watch Co. Official Railroad Standard Pocket Watch This is a 16s, 19 jewel, RR grade watch, adjusted to 6 positions, circa 1908. It is more accurate than my Omega Railmaster! Pat, WOW - what a great time piece! How long have you had it? Do you have any movement shots? How accurate is it? John
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Post by Pat McCarthy on Oct 12, 2004 11:13:37 GMT -5
John, Thanks. I started collecting these watches about a year ago, when I found I couldn't keep up with the buying frenzy going on in the watch fora. I had to find a focus for my collecting, and found it when I saw a watch similar to my grandfathers (not this watch) at a flea market. One thing led to another, and I had several of these really nice watches. I've had this one about 6 months. I'll post some pics of the others when I get some time. Here's the engine. I've been running a month-long accuracy test on this watch, a Hamilton 992b (21 jewels), and my Railmaster; I'm on the 21st day, and here are the stats: Railmaster -14 sec. Ball -9 sec. Hamilton -15 sec. Most folks don't realize that these railroad grade watches had a tougher accuracy standard (+/- 30 sec/month) a century ago than COSC requires now. The standard required each watch to be examined by an inspector monthly, and repaired/serviced as needed. As you can imagine, this required a monsterous bureaucracy to maintain the thousands of watches owned by railroad men. It was necessary, however, to avoid time errors which would lead to deadly accidents.
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Post by JBHII on Oct 12, 2004 11:25:40 GMT -5
John, Here's the engine. I've been running a month-long accuracy test on this watch, a Hamilton 992b (21 jewels), and my Railmaster; I'm on the 21st day, and here are the stats: Railmaster -14 sec. Ball - 9 sec. Hamilton -15 sec. Most folks don't realize that these railroad grade watches had a tougher accuracy standard (+/- 30 sec/month) a century ago than COSC requires now. The standard required each watch to be examined by an inspector monthly, and repaired/serviced as needed. As you can imagine, this required a monsterous bureaucracy to maintain the thousands of watches owned by railroad men. It was necessary, however, to avoid time errors which would lead to deadly accidents. So are all the watches in the test running slow? Those are amazing numbers regardless! You're right - I never realized railroad watches had those standards....makes sense though. Beyond the regular maintenance, is there anything about the movements in these watches that makes them more accurate? -John
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Post by Pat McCarthy on Oct 12, 2004 11:34:57 GMT -5
I really hadn't thought about them all running slow.
Their accuracy is a product of their workmanship as well as their fine adjustment.
Really good RR Grade watches are adjusted to at least 5 positions: stem up, stem left, stem right, face up, and face down. The sixth position is stem down. Each balance wheel contains a number of adjustment screws which regulate the watch's accuracy - in each of those positions. I understand that it took months to initially adjust these watches at the factories.
I keep the pocket watches flat on their backs in a case. The Railmaster is on a winder. I think I'll change these positions to see if there is a difference.
It is amazing these century-old watches can keep this kind of accuracy.
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Post by johnnycanuck on Oct 12, 2004 11:55:12 GMT -5
As usual, my black ExpII.
Maybe I should only post when there's something different on my wrist! ;D
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Post by JBHII on Oct 12, 2004 14:46:34 GMT -5
As usual, my black ExpII. Maybe I should only post when there's something different on my wrist! ;D Naw....just include pictures! ;D Out of curiosity, what other watches do you currently have? John
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Post by johnnycanuck on Oct 12, 2004 16:16:31 GMT -5
Aside from the Rolex I've got a TAG Heuer Kirium (just polished the bezel and inner bracelet links!), a WG Raymond Weil dress watch with a porcelin dial, a Seiko Sport 100 moon phase chrono that's 18 years old and a seven year old ESQ diver that I've worn 20 times in total.
Nothing to brag about but the TAG was a honeymoon gift, the Weil was purchased in Portugal (the model isn't available in N/A) and the Seiko I bought in university. They each have sentimental value. The ESQ? I bought it when my Seiko was in the shop and I regret buying it.
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