Post by OompaLupah on Oct 11, 2004 11:46:41 GMT -5
Just got off the phone with Eyal and he answered all of the questions that have been asked of me this weekend..........
Russian Diver:
Yes, I listed the movement correctly, it is a Unitas 6498 with a power reserve of 55 hours (he noted actual tests at 57 hours FYI).
The screws ARE heat treated blue, he acknowledged they used the same process as every high end luxury brand does to blue the screws. As in my example earlier, you can see the difference between the 2048 Objet d'art and the Russian Diver as far as the blued screws are concerned. He pointed out that the 2048 was enamel painted screws (Invicta never claimed otherwise) and the Russian Diver has them heat treated.
The engraving is done by hand.... but I have to be careful how that is phrased: Each movement is engraved by a person operating a handheld machine which does the engraving, they are not hand chiseled (not at this price point), and they follow a pattern so all the movements look alike. The engraving is not pressed, but machined.
The general selling price (this is in no way a final price, but he wanted you to have a GENERAL idea) is roughly $600. He is aware that we all know how to manipulate the $50 coupons, so look for it to be around $550-$600.
When I send the Russian back, it goes directly to SNBC, so he expects you can see it previewed on air with Shawn in the next 2 weeks or so during other shows.
OGII Chrono:
The GENERAL price to expect will be about $350 or so. So again, with our "lovely and talented" coupon hunters (Pam, Andrea) we should be able to hopefully nail a Swiss OGII for roughly$300.
Again, I want to stress that none of these prices are 100% confirmed!!
COSC Dragon Lupah:
Eyal overnighted my sample today, it will be here tomorrow. It will have a sapphire crystal, and the movement is a Valjoux 7750.
The case will be guaranteed 10 microns of Swiss Rose Gold.
It will have a textured Mother of Pearl dial.
The movement is very different from previous auto Dragons in these respects:
Rose gold plated and decorated.
EVERY single movement is numbered, and is matched up to the case by these numbers. Eyal is extremely proud of this, and it is a very costly production step. So the movement you will have will match numerically to your case.
It will be a Limited Edition. Since some movements do not pass COSC certification, and each movement is numbered to its case, the case will not carry a LE number like 001/500. Instead you get the matching numbers on the case, movement, and certificates.
Each COSC Dragon will get 2 certificates. As of right now every manufacture (Omega, etc) gives you only a number on a card, only Rolex as far as I know gives you the actual COSC test sheet. The Lupah will get a small cert that fits in the box, and the FULL COSC certification sheet, included with the purchase... you will NOT need to send away to Invicta for it.
The watch is tested for 15 days in 7 positions, each position is tested Twice.
The general thought on the price (and this may change before the release in December) is roughly $1600-$1700. Which is only about $200 more than last years unmodified, undecorated, and uncertified Valjoux Dragons.
Hope this helps!
Russian Diver:
Yes, I listed the movement correctly, it is a Unitas 6498 with a power reserve of 55 hours (he noted actual tests at 57 hours FYI).
The screws ARE heat treated blue, he acknowledged they used the same process as every high end luxury brand does to blue the screws. As in my example earlier, you can see the difference between the 2048 Objet d'art and the Russian Diver as far as the blued screws are concerned. He pointed out that the 2048 was enamel painted screws (Invicta never claimed otherwise) and the Russian Diver has them heat treated.
The engraving is done by hand.... but I have to be careful how that is phrased: Each movement is engraved by a person operating a handheld machine which does the engraving, they are not hand chiseled (not at this price point), and they follow a pattern so all the movements look alike. The engraving is not pressed, but machined.
The general selling price (this is in no way a final price, but he wanted you to have a GENERAL idea) is roughly $600. He is aware that we all know how to manipulate the $50 coupons, so look for it to be around $550-$600.
When I send the Russian back, it goes directly to SNBC, so he expects you can see it previewed on air with Shawn in the next 2 weeks or so during other shows.
OGII Chrono:
The GENERAL price to expect will be about $350 or so. So again, with our "lovely and talented" coupon hunters (Pam, Andrea) we should be able to hopefully nail a Swiss OGII for roughly$300.
Again, I want to stress that none of these prices are 100% confirmed!!
COSC Dragon Lupah:
Eyal overnighted my sample today, it will be here tomorrow. It will have a sapphire crystal, and the movement is a Valjoux 7750.
The case will be guaranteed 10 microns of Swiss Rose Gold.
It will have a textured Mother of Pearl dial.
The movement is very different from previous auto Dragons in these respects:
Rose gold plated and decorated.
EVERY single movement is numbered, and is matched up to the case by these numbers. Eyal is extremely proud of this, and it is a very costly production step. So the movement you will have will match numerically to your case.
It will be a Limited Edition. Since some movements do not pass COSC certification, and each movement is numbered to its case, the case will not carry a LE number like 001/500. Instead you get the matching numbers on the case, movement, and certificates.
Each COSC Dragon will get 2 certificates. As of right now every manufacture (Omega, etc) gives you only a number on a card, only Rolex as far as I know gives you the actual COSC test sheet. The Lupah will get a small cert that fits in the box, and the FULL COSC certification sheet, included with the purchase... you will NOT need to send away to Invicta for it.
The watch is tested for 15 days in 7 positions, each position is tested Twice.
The general thought on the price (and this may change before the release in December) is roughly $1600-$1700. Which is only about $200 more than last years unmodified, undecorated, and uncertified Valjoux Dragons.
Hope this helps!