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Post by Titan7 on Oct 30, 2004 0:59:54 GMT -5
Anybody have one? What's your opinion? I read John's review in IW, good review John. Just wondering about the issues I read about them last year. It looks like a very striking watch.
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Post by JBHII on Oct 30, 2004 10:00:56 GMT -5
Anybody have one? What's your opinion? I read John's review in IW, good review John. Just wondering about the issues I read about them last year. It looks like a very striking watch. The bottom line is the watch is a great watch, and a worthy competitor to the Daytona, albeit both watches have their issues. The WORST case scenario in my mind is that if you get a hold of an old stock Broad Arrow that doesn't represent newer, "fixed" movement, then you send it back to Omega in Bienne and they make the watch right. You're out of having your watch for 30 days. However, in the case of the Daytona, you're paying over twice as much, no date display, and you're wait time for the watch can be many months or years.... That said, I'm a couple of wait lists for a white dial Daytona. John
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Post by clepsydra on Oct 30, 2004 14:08:56 GMT -5
Opinion: Very good timepiece; 'right-priced' from the right source.
Good looking and decently built utilizing the 33XX co-ax movement switched via column wheel.
Not as stoutly engineered as the 4130 animating the Daytona, but still a chrono that'll last a lifetime or two.
Most attractive of all of Omega's chronograph offerings.
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Post by JBHII on Oct 30, 2004 14:51:03 GMT -5
Opinion: Very good timepiece; 'right-priced' from the right source. Good looking and decently built utilizing the 33XX co-ax movement switched via column wheel. Not as stoutly engineered as the 4130 animating the Daytona, but still a chrono that'll last a lifetime or two. Most attractive of all of Omega's chronograph offerings. Far be it from me to correct the wise and knowledgeable Clepsydra, but the co-axial escapment is not universally used throughout the 33xx movement line. John
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Post by Titan7 on Oct 30, 2004 15:06:14 GMT -5
Anyone know the serial number range to avoid? I know Omega will fix any issues but I would rather avoid shipping it overseas to fix. I may wait until early next year to pick one up.
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Post by JBHII on Oct 30, 2004 15:23:45 GMT -5
Anyone know the serial number range to avoid? I know Omega will fix any issues but I would rather avoid shipping it overseas to fix. I may wait until early next year to pick one up. As far as I know, Omega hasn't released this sort of information. John
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Post by claudel on Oct 30, 2004 20:36:13 GMT -5
had complains about the 3303 (or so he said) . And aesthetically speaking, it is much more striking than any other speedmaster. And don't forget you get the 100m rating and the saphire (not hesalite) crystal. In fact i want one but just cannot afford it at the moment.
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Post by Titan7 on Oct 30, 2004 20:43:04 GMT -5
Just saw one at the dealer today, OMG, I must own it. Dumb question, can I leave the large second hand sweeping? That's the only thing I don't like about these types of watches is the big second hand does not move unless you are using the stopwatch function. If left running all the time is there any problems?
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Post by clepsydra on Oct 30, 2004 22:17:14 GMT -5
Seen a lot of dumb questions, but that ain't one of 'em. "If I sneeze while wearing my new Omega, will it hurt my watch?".....now that's a dumb question.
No harm, really, in continuously running the chrono....if that's what you want to do.
Two types of chrono engagements: Gear and friction.
The friction engaged chronos (some by F. Piguet, Seiko, and the new Rolex Daytona) have no problem at all running continuously; the chrono second had is simply dropped onto the intermediate wheel for engagement. Also, this design puts little, if any, additional load on the train so balance amplitude isn't compromised.
On other chronographs (like the VJ 7750 and Lemania 1873/4 that're pushing a lot of Omega chronos), you have a gear-to-gear interface when engaging the chrono works, and this puts an additional load on the train so you might see some timing anomalies...amplitude will (usually) suffer a bit and the watch may suffer some accuracy.
Also, on a standard engagement chrono the gears used for engagement are cut triangularly - a good tooth profile for interfacing when you push the start button and slam the gears into place - but not an ideal profile for continuous running.
But, even if the tooth profile isn't optimal for continuos running, little harm can come from having the chrono works switched on for extended periods. Most chronos do, after all, have a 12 hour accumulator.
And Holbrook; are you saying that Omega offers no chronograph with the coaxial escapement?
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Post by Titan7 on Oct 30, 2004 23:21:47 GMT -5
Wow, thanks for the detailed explaination. Maybe it's better to not run it all the time. I will just have to get used to that. I also saw the Speedy Date, which was in stock, very nice watch!
So why is the BA so much more $$ than the speedy date?
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Post by JBHII on Oct 30, 2004 23:56:18 GMT -5
And Holbrook; are you saying that Omega offers no chronograph with the coaxial escapement? No, I'm refuting your suggestion that the co-axial escapement is universally used throughout the 33xx series of movements - it isn't. I don't have the movement serial number at my finger tips, but I believe only one of the 33xx movements employs the co-axial escapement (used I believe in the DeVille co-axial chrono). The Broad Arrow, the Legend, and the new LE Seamaster Chrono are not Co-axial, but all have 33xx movements. John
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Post by JBHII on Oct 30, 2004 23:59:22 GMT -5
Wow, thanks for the detailed explaination. Maybe it's better to not run it all the time. I will just have to get used to that. I also saw the Speedy Date, which was in stock, very nice watch! So why is the BA so much more $$ than the speedy date? The Speedy date is smaller, and uses a very different movement. The movement used in the Broad Arrow is consider "high horology" in many respects. It has been suggested though that Omega's pricing strategy on the Broad Arrow is askew however....while it's less expensive than many of its competitors, it seems innordinately high compared to other Omegas.... John
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