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Post by JBHII on Nov 11, 2007 15:18:38 GMT -5
....but A Red Sub is a rare thing of beauty!   |
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Post by Scott D on Nov 11, 2007 16:14:08 GMT -5
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Post by timefinder on Nov 11, 2007 18:24:16 GMT -5
Great picture. I see you are still having fun with the Red Sub. ;D
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Post by JBHII on Nov 11, 2007 21:02:27 GMT -5
Great picture. I see you are still having fun with the Red Sub. ;D Absolutely! |
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Post by ohlins on Nov 11, 2007 21:13:48 GMT -5
awesome....  |
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Post by teddycook on Nov 11, 2007 21:54:48 GMT -5
you sure are making me want a red sub now..... nice shot!
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Post by Aaron on Nov 12, 2007 5:13:11 GMT -5
Hey John, Your absolutely correct about how good the dial looks,not to yellow and still crisp.  Great shot as well. Aaron |
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Post by JBHII on Nov 12, 2007 6:03:28 GMT -5
Hey John, Your absolutely correct about how good the dial looks,not to yellow and still crisp. Great shot as well. Aaron Thanks my friend...I'm very happy with it. |
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Post by idriveanm5 on Nov 12, 2007 9:44:43 GMT -5
Wow John, you've started naming your photographs? That's quite the artist's touch!
Nice photo. My wife would probably say "Hey, there's a watch in the way of the flower!"
:-)
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Post by talktime on Nov 12, 2007 13:26:33 GMT -5
I have to admit, I like that John.
I'm not the biggest Sub fan, but these old ones seem to have something that the new ones are lacking...
Anyway. I know a friend who has an OLD no-date sube (1968 or so- he's also the original ownr and MAY have the box etc.) and I was thinking about seeing if he wanted to part with it.
It will also need a complete overhaul, crystal and bracelet but I think I'll ask him what he wants next time I see him...
I do not believe it is a 'red' sub, but I have not studied it at length.
John: assuming the watch needs a complete rebuild, not unlike what you went through, what would be a fair price for this watch? I really have no idea with the vintage stuff, and this would also represent my first Rolex purchase (assuming he'd even consider parting with it).
PM me if you prefer, that's fine; or post here for the benefit of the group.
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Post by JBHII on Nov 12, 2007 13:35:54 GMT -5
Wow John, you've started naming your photographs? That's quite the artist's touch! Nice photo. My wife would probably say "Hey, there's a watch in the way of the flower!" :-) ;D ;D ;D Thanks my friend! |
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Post by JBHII on Nov 12, 2007 13:38:31 GMT -5
I have to admit, I like that John. I'm not the biggest Sub fan, but these old ones seem to have something that the new ones are lacking... Anyway. I know a friend who has an OLD no-date sube (1968 or so- he's also the original ownr and MAY have the box etc.) and I was thinking about seeing if he wanted to part with it. It will also need a complete overhaul, crystal and bracelet but I think I'll ask him what he wants next time I see him... I do not believe it is a 'red' sub, but I have not studied it at length. John: assuming the watch needs a complete rebuild, not unlike what you went through, what would be a fair price for this watch? I really have no idea with the vintage stuff, and this would also represent my first Rolex purchase (assuming he'd even consider parting with it). PM me if you prefer, that's fine; or post here for the benefit of the group. The 1680 is the only Submariner with red writing on the dial - no non-date model has it as far as I know. Condition is everything with these older models...is it a 5512 or 5513? |
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Post by talktime on Nov 12, 2007 14:25:50 GMT -5
I'm not sure of the model- I'm far from the expert on that..
I know it was purchased around 1968/1969 new, and he has worn it since. So, you can imagine the condition.
It has been in for repair several times, so I'm sure things like the crown and bezel are not original (I may be wrong about that) and it looks like a nearly 40 year old watch.
What would be the telling signs of the model? I'm not going to pull the bracelet off his watch to determine that, so, is there an easier way without taking it apart?
Is one model more 'desireable' than the other which would greatly affect price? I would asume condition would be the deciding factor for selling price, moreso than model number, or am I way off on that?
I also was not aware that only the date model had the red ink. Why was that? Anyway, it keeps reasonable time (last I knew) and he MAY be willing to part with it- I may have to come up with a nice replacement for him of some kind...
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Post by JBHII on Nov 12, 2007 22:31:43 GMT -5
I'm not sure of the model- I'm far from the expert on that.. I know it was purchased around 1968/1969 new, and he has worn it since. So, you can imagine the condition. It has been in for repair several times, so I'm sure things like the crown and bezel are not original (I may be wrong about that) and it looks like a nearly 40 year old watch. What would be the telling signs of the model? I'm not going to pull the bracelet off his watch to determine that, so, is there an easier way without taking it apart? Is one model more 'desireable' than the other which would greatly affect price? I would asume condition would be the deciding factor for selling price, moreso than model number, or am I way off on that? I also was not aware that only the date model had the red ink. Why was that? Anyway, it keeps reasonable time (last I knew) and he MAY be willing to part with it- I may have to come up with a nice replacement for him of some kind... It's probobly a 5512 or 5513. You can search google images for photos to confirm. In pristine condition, I don't think it's worth any more than 4k with box and papers...a good offer will depend on how much work it needs. |
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Post by talktime on Nov 13, 2007 7:39:37 GMT -5
Thanks, John.
This at least gives me a gage to work from.
It is far from prestine, and the box and papers may or may not be available. he is the original owner, that much I am sure of...
I will talk with him about it next time I see him, and keep everyone posted on my progress...
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