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Post by choppersdad on Sept 6, 2005 16:33:03 GMT -5
I have been looking over quite a few Japanese watches lately and own a couple, and probably the most noticeable short fall to me is the bracelet... Folded steel in many many instances.
What about your experiences?
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Post by Mamas1 on Sept 7, 2005 12:58:48 GMT -5
Hey choppersdad.. great point you have there about the bracelets.. the other thing that i think is a major disadvantage with seiko divers especially is that you can not manual wind them when they have run down.. if you have left them off your wrist for a couple of days, and the other thing which i dont like is that they dont hack.
saying that how many other companies manufacture everything from crystal to mechanism etc inhouse as seiko do ... certainly none that i can think of for less than $4000!
mamas
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Post by choppersdad on Sept 7, 2005 19:59:20 GMT -5
You're exactly right, the non hacking non manual wind movements are also somewhat cumbersome, as well as the 4:00 winder position to some, though it really doesn't bother me much, actually sor of like it not sticking directly into my arm. But, take everthing into account, still a lot of watch for the dinero...
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Post by Adam on Sept 8, 2005 9:27:23 GMT -5
I think the non-winding movement is definitely a disadvantage for most, sometimes it drives me nuts  I haven't seen to many current Seiko's with folding link bracelets, it seems they have stepped up a notch with this. Not only do they make great watches for the money but also the best bracelets. I still have my eye on the white samurai, great looking watch  |
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Post by jasman on Sept 9, 2005 18:18:46 GMT -5
I agree, my only knock on Japanese watches are folded bracelets. Although I must admit, most OEM folded bracelets are a lot heftier than some "solid" aftermarket ones. I'm willing to pay a few bucks extra to get a nice and heavy solid bracelet instead.
Non hand winding does not bother me. I just leave it in the winder.
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Post by GW on Sept 9, 2005 23:05:20 GMT -5
I only own a couple and I made sure the bracelet was heavy enough to suit me I had one yrs ago that was to0 lite but it never had a problem I just like the feel of a heavy band ....BUT whata I know I buy another G shock every time I walk by a watch counter  )I also like good quality rubber straps on divers ... imho ) |
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Post by rkammer on Sept 11, 2005 1:16:25 GMT -5
The complaint about japaneese movements not being windable or hackable is only partially true and only a very minor inconvenience IMO. Although not windable, all one need do before putting one on that has stopped from non-use, is to rotate it a few times in both directions prior to putting it on. Once the movement starts, the watch will run all day and continue to wind itself such that there will be almost 2 days reserve by the time the watch has been worn for a day or so.
As for hacking, the 7S26 movements can be hacked by very slightly reversing the minute hand with the crown pulled all the way out. Once you get the feel of it, you can stop the second hand anywhere you want and hack the watch. Not as convenient as just pulling the crown out but still convenient once you get the hang of it.
These movements are super hardy. I've had 20 year old Seiko divers that had never been serviced and still ran accurately. Not as accurately as a Swiss Chronometer but close and for the money they are hard to beat.
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Post by Mamas1 on Sept 11, 2005 5:45:11 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Ray.. i am always worried that trying to manual hack these watches by rotating the crown anticlockwise may damage the mechanism / or at least increase wear .. thats why i dont try to manual hack my speedy pro..
all the best
mamas
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Post by rkammer on Sept 12, 2005 16:55:58 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Ray.. i am always worried that trying to manual hack these watches by rotating the crown anticlockwise may damage the mechanism / or at least increase wear .. thats why i dont try to manual hack my speedy pro.. all the best mamas Mamas, I've hacked my Speedy Moon watch frequently and it will not hurt it. Omega even publishes hacking instructions using the "reverse the crown" method." Won't hurt it at all. I also have a Seiko 6309 which is 27 years old and only been serviced once. It didn't need anything other than to be lubed and had no worn parts from hacking at all. The 6309 movement is supposed to be non-hacking. |
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)I also like good quality rubber straps on divers ... imho 
