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8926
Dec 30, 2004 5:12:18 GMT -5
Post by littlegreen33 on Dec 30, 2004 5:12:18 GMT -5
Hey all, I just wanted to say I received my new 8926 reissue today and am completely disappointed with it. The qualuty control is severly lacking at the factory. Here are the issues. -The cyclops is off-center by 4-5mm -The bracelet is not embossed on each link as my previous Invictas -It does not keep accepatable time (+/- 5 minute every 2-3 hours) -The Hacking mechanism does not work Should I just return the watch to the dealer, and ask for an exchange, or ? Any advice would be welcome. Thanks in advance
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8926
Dec 30, 2004 8:18:40 GMT -5
Post by JBHII on Dec 30, 2004 8:18:40 GMT -5
Hey all, I just wanted to say I received my new 8926 reissue today and am completely disappointed with it. The qualuty control is severly lacking at the factory. Here are the issues. -The cyclops is off-center by 4-5mm -The bracelet is not embossed on each link as my previous Invictas -It does not keep accepatable time (+/- 5 minute every 2-3 hours) -The Hacking mechanism does not work Should I just return the watch to the dealer, and ask for an exchange, or ? Any advice would be welcome. Thanks in advance Let's try and clarify some of the points above - some of your issues aren't quality control issues. -The Miyota movement in the 8926 does not hack. So there's nothing wrong in that regard. -If by "embossed" you mean the Interior links aren't stamped with "Invicta" on each link, then this isn't a problem either. They evidentally used older style bracelets on all the re-issued Pro Divers. I noted the same thing with my 9937 RI. The cyclops and the accuracy are issues. It's up to you if you want your money back, or if you'll be happy with an 8926 that has a straight cyclops and properly running movement. Sorry to hear this happened to you, but your dealer should be cooperative in resolving the issue.
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8926
Dec 30, 2004 11:51:33 GMT -5
Post by littlegreen33 on Dec 30, 2004 11:51:33 GMT -5
Thanks again John. I didn't realize that the stampings on the individual links were a new thing to Invicta. I thought that with the other quality issues Invicta was having they were cutting back on costs again. I'm happy to know that the bracelet is the "old" type. The "Hacking" issue is an issue. With all of your personal intervention with Invicta on behalf of it's customers in regard to "making a better watch", they incorporated a Hack with this reissue. Other folks on the board have written about it and how it's a great feature. I do know that my watch is not an old stock, back shelf watch, as it has the "wing" on the second hand, and the "white" dot on the bezel. I contacted the dealer and he is going to exchange my watch AFTER he inspects the new one for flaws. Thanks again for the input. KJ
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8926
Dec 30, 2004 12:40:18 GMT -5
Post by JBHII on Dec 30, 2004 12:40:18 GMT -5
Thanks again John. I didn't realize that the stampings on the individual links were a new thing to Invicta. I thought that with the other quality issues Invicta was having they were cutting back on costs again. I'm happy to know that the bracelet is the "old" type. The "Hacking" issue is an issue. With all of your personal intervention with Invicta on behalf of it's customers in regard to "making a better watch", they incorporated a Hack with this reissue. Other folks on the board have written about it and how it's a great feature. I do know that my watch is not an old stock, back shelf watch, as it has the "wing" on the second hand, and the "white" dot on the bezel. I contacted the dealer and he is going to exchange my watch AFTER he inspects the new one for flaws. Thanks again for the input. KJ Just to clarify, the Miyota 8215 does not hack. It never has. That's the movement that's always been used in all the 89xx Pro Divers. The 99xx series use ETA 2824's, which does hack. Perhaps this is the source of your confusion? You can "trick" an 8215 equiped watch into a faux hack by simply holding on to the crown, or running the minute hand backwards, you can cause the second hand to "stall" or even run in reverse. It's probably not that great for the movement, but I've seen many testimonials about this technique being used. Again, this isn't a true hack function - more of a work around.
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8926
Dec 30, 2004 13:24:29 GMT -5
Post by littlegreen33 on Dec 30, 2004 13:24:29 GMT -5
Gotcha John. Sorry about the confusion. Whew!! I thought I was losing my mind trying to get this thing to hack. It did when I first opened it and set it, but after that, nada, nothing. I don't want to damage the movement with a work around.
Now the accuracy thing. Do you (John or Pat) think I should just let it settle in over a week or so and see, or go ahead and return it? I know it's a great watch, but am I just jumping the gun and being too picky too soon? (Not a loaded question....ok?)
Cheers, Kevin
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8926
Dec 30, 2004 13:48:49 GMT -5
Post by JBHII on Dec 30, 2004 13:48:49 GMT -5
Gotcha John. Sorry about the confusion. Whew!! I thought I was losing my mind trying to get this thing to hack. It did when I first opened it and set it, but after that, nada, nothing. I don't want to damage the movement with a work around. Now the accuracy thing. Do you (John or Pat) think I should just let it settle in over a week or so and see, or go ahead and return it? I know it's a great watch, but am I just jumping the gun and being too picky too soon? (Not a loaded question....ok?) Cheers, Kevin I'd probably be more apt to exchange it on the basis of the cyclops misalignment alone. John
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8926
Dec 30, 2004 14:41:33 GMT -5
Post by Pat McCarthy on Dec 30, 2004 14:41:33 GMT -5
I'd probably be more apt to exchange it on the basis of the cyclops misalignment alone. John I'm with JHBII on this. The cyclops issues would be enough for me to want an exchange. As to your accuracy concern, my 9094 (same movment, case, etc; different dial and bezel color) consistently runs about 15 seconds fast per day. With the Miyota 8215, that's ok with me. My 9938 with the ETA 2824 runs about 4 seconds slow per day. That accuracy difference is part of what makes the Swiss movement watch more expensive - and thus, more sought after. Don't get me wrong - if the accuracy is unacceptable to you, either exchange it or get another model which will satisfy you. I know a bunch of folks who have been unhappy with Invictas - and other marques as well - simply because they had the wrong watch. Your dealer should take care of these problems. Let us know how it works out.
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8926
Jan 1, 2005 20:13:21 GMT -5
Post by Ken on Jan 1, 2005 20:13:21 GMT -5
Kevin, I am one of Eyal/Invicta's biggest critics, but I've got to say my 8926 is flawless as far as I can ascertain. Everything is on straight and it runs great.
The Citizen/Miyota 8215 movement in it DOES NOT HACK! You can force stop the second hand with a little backward pressure and simulate hacking, but it does not truly hack. Many will say that this can damage the movement. In my 50 years of using mechanical and automatic movements, I have never had a problem.
As far as accuracy, I have 3 watches with this movement (8926/2310/2276) and the all run great. None of them run more than +6 seconds per day.
Bottom line - demand that your watch be as good as it can, and THAT is pretty **** good!!!
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8926
Jan 1, 2005 20:45:49 GMT -5
Post by mindseyephoto on Jan 1, 2005 20:45:49 GMT -5
I'm a new owner who just figured out the psuedo-hacking on my 8114. Mine has been runnning about +3 secs per day...I'm VERY impressed.
Scott
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8926
Jan 1, 2005 20:59:21 GMT -5
Post by JBHII on Jan 1, 2005 20:59:21 GMT -5
I'm a new owner who just figured out the psuedo-hacking on my 8114. Mine has been runnning about +3 secs per day...I'm VERY impressed. Scott Scott, Welcome to the WTF Original Invicta Forum, and congrats on the new 8114! Please do tell us what Mind's Eye Photography is all about? I'm pretty in to photography myself! ;D
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8926
Jan 2, 2005 14:34:26 GMT -5
Post by MikeS on Jan 2, 2005 14:34:26 GMT -5
Congrats and welcome Scott
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