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Post by Klatuu on Oct 20, 2004 7:04:43 GMT -5
Hello everyone, if my wife found out I joined such a forum she would have me committed. I just recently obtained a GMT II (red/black) after years of not having a Rolex. This will be the third one I have owned. The first was a Sub back in 76' traded that for an SD. After having a nightmare of ownership with the SD I was forced to sell it. Now that I have the GMT is it normal to want to purchase another? I have my eye on a no date sub circa 1970. The dealer wants $1800. It is factory serviced with a relumed dial. Does that price sound right? It is in really good shape.
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Post by Aaron on Oct 20, 2004 7:12:15 GMT -5
G'day.Join the club with the spousal browbeating.
Mine is over the amount of time that I spend on this computer.
I am curious about the SD.What sought of nightmares could this watch create.
Cheers Aaron
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Post by JBHII on Oct 20, 2004 9:32:25 GMT -5
Hello everyone, if my wife found out I joined such a forum she would have me committed. I just recently obtained a GMT II (red/black) after years of not having a Rolex. This will be the third one I have owned. The first was a Sub back in 76' traded that for an SD. After having a nightmare of ownership with the SD I was forced to sell it. Now that I have the GMT is it normal to want to purchase another? I have my eye on a no date sub circa 1970. The dealer wants $1800. It is factory serviced with a relumed dial. Does that price sound right? It is in really good shape. Firstly, let me say, [glow=red,2,300]WELCOME![/glow] I hope you enjoy and will be an active participant in our community! I'm single, so right now I don't have to deal with "spousal brow beating" ;D But when I was married, whoooboy....  It seems very natural (especially to us watch collectors) to want more than one of any kind of watch. But it seems especially hard for Rolex fans to make it with just one.  You can see my current collection at www.rolexreferencepage.com. I'm not as up on my vintage pricing as others are, but that doesn't seem like a terrible price if the watch is complete with box, papers, etc. Perhaps others here can provide more help? John |
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Post by johnnycanuck on Oct 20, 2004 9:56:48 GMT -5
You say the dial has been relumed. Is it a complete redial? The older Rolex watches had radioactive tritium as the lume, while the current ones moved to a safer luminova.
I'd be skeptical if it has been relumed with tritium. My guess is it's a redial. If that's the case, find out if it is a new old stock dial or if the dial has been restored with luminova.
Unless the watch has all the paperwork, I'd shy away from it, although the price is a fair price for a well maintained Sub of that vintage.
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Post by clepsydra on Oct 20, 2004 10:48:53 GMT -5
No need, really, to 'worry' about tritium.
Tritium's a low energy beta emitter, and it's one of the least dangerous of all the radionuclides.
Wearing a watch that's had its dial painted with tritium markers (less than 25 millicuries) poses no risk to the wearer; virtually none of the energy emitted can penetrate the watchcase, and none will penetrate the skin.
The 'danger' of tritium is to the people who work with very, very large volumes of the isotope in environments that aren't designed to provide proper containment, handling, and storage.
If you drink tap water, you're ingesting minute traces of tritium with each swallow.
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Post by JBHII on Oct 20, 2004 11:11:39 GMT -5
No need, really, to 'worry' about tritium. Tritium's a low energy beta emitter, and it's one of the least dangerous of all the radionuclides. Wearing a watch that's had its dial painted with tritium markers (less than 25 millicuries) poses no risk to the wearer; virtually none of the energy emitted can penetrate the watchcase, and none will penetrate the skin. The 'danger' of tritium is to the people who work with very, very large volumes of the isotope in environments that aren't designed to provide proper containment, handling, and storage. If you drink tap water, you're ingesting minute traces of tritium with each swallow. You know, if I ever make it on to WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE, I know who I'm calling if I ever have to phone a friend.... ;D |
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Post by johnnycanuck on Oct 20, 2004 14:29:46 GMT -5
Point taken with tritium but I didn't mean to suggest it was unstable or dangerous. Just that luminova is a 'safer' chemical. More importantly, and I forgot to mention this, Luminove doesn't wear out, as tritium does. How many old Rollies have you seen with no lume whatsoever?
But yeah, this place has a few sharp guys around. LOL
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Post by clepsydra on Oct 20, 2004 15:43:49 GMT -5
Didn't mean for anyone to think that you were in any way wrong, Johnny, about tritium vis-à-vis Luminova, and their respective hazards or absence thereof......just a short primer for some of the newer participants who may not b familiar with the material(s).
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Post by johnnycanuck on Oct 20, 2004 15:55:58 GMT -5
Nope, fully understand. ;D
But now we know whom to go to when we have chemistry questions. ;D ;D
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Post by MikeS on Oct 20, 2004 16:41:22 GMT -5
all the time
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Post by Klatuu on Oct 20, 2004 21:47:35 GMT -5
Hello again everyone! Thanks for the welcome! I would guess this watch thing is an obsession. I have been Rolexless since 1983 and finally I gathered the funds to get my GMT which I love. In answer to Aaron's qusestion about my nightmare SD ownership, I purchased my Sub back in late 76' early 77'. great watch with the soft looking acrylic crystal and those big borderless hour markers. One thing I didn't like about it was it had a folded link bracelet. I tolerated it for about six months and traded it in on a SD. I babied this watch wore it only on weekends (a Zodiac Super-Sea Wolf did the daily duty). Shortly after the warranty expired I noticed it had stopped. I took in to Baily, Banks and Biddle were I bought it. It was sent to New York and $350.00 later it came back buffed with a repaired rotor assembly. ? It was NEVER dropped or roughly handled. A year and a half later while adjusting for daylight savings time the crown came off in my hand. Another $300.00 or so with more buffing it was repaired again. This lasted about two years and one day while driving I noticed it had stopped again. A gentle shake told me the rotor had again come of of its pivots. So I said "screw it I'll just wind it manually" I unscrewed the crown and guess what? I was again holding the crown in my fingers. I stopped at the nearest jewelry store and traded it for some $$$ and a Sector ADV 3000. At that point I could not justify spending more on repairs than I paid for the watch. ( shoulda' kept the Sub). That is in essence is my Sea Dweller nightmare.
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Post by MikeS on Oct 21, 2004 1:06:22 GMT -5
My GMTII is an 1987 model so far so good! I also have an F serial Sub!  So what do you own now? |
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Post by Klatuu on Oct 21, 2004 6:39:16 GMT -5
Currently I have the GMT, a Sector ADV 3000, a stainless Luminox Seals, a Luninox Geneva plus various Swiss armies. Including the first Marlboro promotional. I have my eye on a 1970's no date sub. The jeweler who is selling it wants $1800.00. The only problem I have is it doesn't have the original bracelet. It has a oyster but not the fliplock. The dial has been redone. It is one of the>T25 dials but it has a good glow to it. As far as the SD goes I think I did the right thing.
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Post by Jack Neima on Oct 21, 2004 10:16:37 GMT -5
a greeting Michael Renie used in some "space movie" long ago....is that true?
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Post by Klatuu on Oct 21, 2004 18:55:46 GMT -5
Yes it was. The movie was called " The Day the Earth Stood Still" Released in 1951 it starred Michael Rennie,Patricia Neal, Hugh Marlowe, Sam Jaffee amongst others.
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