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Post by Houston on Nov 10, 2007 8:10:55 GMT -5
again Brother Well, it sure looks like you've got a great find there Mr MVF We'll get the Speedy members' card and fireworks ready for you Be well now pals ZIN Not usually shaken nor stirred ;D ;D ;D
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Post by moviefreak on Nov 10, 2007 8:32:10 GMT -5
Thanks a lot guys.... everyone has helped a lot.. I will have he SPEEDY in my hands this morning.
New pictures will be added soon.
Cheers,
MVF
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Post by MacDaddy on Nov 10, 2007 13:34:56 GMT -5
Houston, we have acquired another intelligent life form. Roger?
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Post by Houston on Nov 10, 2007 13:38:46 GMT -5
We have acquired another member of the Horological-Perfection Awareness Society Mr MacDaddy. We may need to consider asking you to create a special Speedmaster Members card in respect of such momentous occasions Hope you and yours are well pal ZIN Not usually shaken nor stirred ;D ;D ;D
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Post by pjgu7000 on Nov 10, 2007 13:57:27 GMT -5
How does a watch get so nicked up? Some of my watches are 45+ years old and they look 99% better, so many marks on the case and band. The watch appears to be in poor shape, being a Omega I guess it could bring $800 but not my $800. You know maybe that was the watch that went to the moon and back, that might explain the condition. I do my own reconditioning and from the looks of the pictures it looks like a real challenge, good luck.
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Post by Houston on Nov 10, 2007 14:13:02 GMT -5
How does a watch get so nicked up? Some of my watches are 45+ years old and they look 99% better, so many marks on the case and band. The watch appears to be in poor shape, being a Omega I guess it could bring $800 but not my $800. You know maybe that was the watch that went to the moon and back, that might explain the condition. Welcome to OMEGALand Mr Pjgu7000 Well the crystal is hesalite so it would pick up scratches but having said that these can be polished out and can the case and bracelet. Believe me a watch going in and out of a dealer's display case, especially that of a pre-loved dealer can pick up all manner of scratches. I once bought a watch labelled as BNIB from a gray dealer. Well it was in the display and when I got it back soon realised it was anything but BNIB but a refurbishment soon restored it to its' true visual glory. Besides which Mr MVF only took quick grab shots. There's nothing a visit to the horology spa won't do for this brilliant piece. Be well now ZIN Not usually shaken nor stirred ;D ;D ;D
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Post by pjgu7000 on Nov 10, 2007 14:31:03 GMT -5
Welcome to OMEGALand Mr Pjgu7000 Well the crystal is hesalite so it would pick up scratches but having said that these can be polished out and can the case and bracelet. Believe me a watch going in and out of a dealer's display case, especially that of a pre-loved dealer can pick up all manner of scratches. I once bought a watch labelled as BNIB from a gray dealer. Well it was in the display and when I got it back soon realised it was anything but BNIB but a refurbishment soon restored it to its' true visual glory. Besides which Mr MVF only took quick grab shots. There's nothing a visit to the horology spa won't do for this brilliant piece. Be well now ZIN Not usually shaken nor stirred ;D ;D ;D Thanks for the welcome. If he does buy the watch I definitely want to see pictures of the reconditioning and the cost to do so.
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Post by Houston on Nov 10, 2007 14:42:10 GMT -5
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Post by moviefreak on Nov 11, 2007 10:16:49 GMT -5
Yesterday I came back for the watch and tried it, and the hesalite started to get foggy on the inside (foggie)... The jeweler opened it and used a hair blower to remove any moisture that might have been left. Well I took it home, but when I did tried it again the same thing happened.. fog on the inside.. so I took it back. The jeweler said that if I left the watch under the sun a little while or wear it a couple of days the moisture will go away and then I would not have that problem again. So the watch is not in my hands right now. What do you guys think?
Cheers,
MVF
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Post by diver88 on Nov 11, 2007 10:42:40 GMT -5
Mr Movie, don't do anything on my say so please. I might have made a mistake, but I would have bought it on the spot, took pics and asked questions after I got it home. i figure it needs the love and care of a watchmaker anyway so the problem would not have slowed me down at all I'm afraid. you had the back off to take pics right? wait untill Zin or GJ or Jmrolls has a look at your question please, but it would be in my hot hands if it were me. did we ever determine an approximate age of the watch, early 70's maybe? i don't remember...good luck diver88 ;D
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Post by moviefreak on Nov 11, 2007 10:50:27 GMT -5
Hello... on the back it says 145.022 71st... 1971 someone said.
Cheers,
What would be the price even if the watch is still on those conditions?... any thoughts...
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Post by diver88 on Nov 11, 2007 11:22:39 GMT -5
I don't remember, was the watch in running order? I figure it would need a trip to the watchmaker anyway..... again I could have made a big mistake, but if I found what you have found I would own it . but let the experts in vintage pieces comment, don't take my word for it... I'm a diver diver88 ;D
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Post by Houston on Nov 11, 2007 14:51:06 GMT -5
Mr MVF Very sorry to hear of the problem with the watch. I have to say that the thought of moisture drives me round the bend. The watch would need to be serviced immediately. The seal needs replacing by the sound of it but I am surprised that the watch fogged up even when it wasn't anywhere near water. How much moisture is in it is what springs to mind. I'm no expert on the durability of vintage watches but someone I know who had moisture in his old Speedy reported nothing untoward when his watchmaker opened it up. A 71 vintage in good condition could set you back between $1400/1450 to possibly $1800. I've seen them in the region of 2K as well. Contrast this to a year ago when a fairly-recently serviced example which was virtually pristine went for $1100. I think you could factor in the fact that the watch has a 1039 bracelet which is of some considerable value. With that in mind and servicing possibly in the region of $500 to perhaps $700 ( need Fr John or Gee Jaay in on this one ), I think you still have a good thing going here. That said, if you get it, it should be shipped off to Bienne straight away and pack it with silica gel. In fact when and if you buy it, buy some silica gel too unless you already have some. Be well now my friend ZIN Not usually shaken nor stirred ;D ;D ;D
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Post by GJ on Nov 11, 2007 15:02:46 GMT -5
Hmm..moisture you said... If I where you I would try to find a qualified watchmaker in your neighbourhood. Dust, moisture and magnets are the worst enemies of watch movements. Don't know how many moist there is in the watch, but I would like to get it out as soon as possible. It could effect the dial as well. I don't know where you are located but I am willing to share my watchmaker with you. He worked for more then 30 years for Omega Bienne and now started on his own. He is in the Netherlands though, but he really is one of the best.. If you are interested, just PM me..
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Post by Houston on Nov 11, 2007 16:26:06 GMT -5
That sounds like an offer too good to miss Gee Jaay. There you are Mr MVF An avenue, should you get the watch. Be well pal ZIN Not usually shaken nor stirred ;D ;D ;D
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