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Post by timefinder on Nov 24, 2007 23:31:42 GMT -5
The Seiko pictured here is very nice; but, I have issues with 2 points: 1: The words Seiko are IN YOUR FACE with the lettering and size on the dial. They should have been more subtle when placing Seiko on the dial. Omega and Rolex do quite well in this area, and Seiko should follow suit. 2: MSRP @ $1200 for a Japanese movement? Are you kidding me? There needs to be a MAJOR marketing effort to sway the public's opinion on this. While I understand the Japanese have made some technological advances in the automatic market, the fact of the matter is, the public is not ready to part with so much money for a Japanese product, when Swiss mades are the same price, or for slightly higher. Seikos are NOT considered high end. And most people agree with that notion and are not willing to part with that kind of money for a (no offense intended) 'low end' watch. If Seiko can change their strategy, get a very good marketing push, and get the public to accept the new technology and justify the cost, they may have a chance, albeit a slight one. Just my two cents.
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Post by Knight Watchman on Nov 25, 2007 0:53:18 GMT -5
The Seiko pictured here is very nice; but, I have issues with 2 points: 1: The words Seiko are IN YOUR FACE with the lettering and size on the dial. They should have been more subtle when placing Seiko on the dial. Omega and Rolex do quite well in this area, and Seiko should follow suit. 2: MSRP @ $1200 for a Japanese movement? Are you kidding me? There needs to be a MAJOR marketing effort to sway the public's opinion on this. While I understand the Japanese have made some technological advances in the automatic market, the fact of the matter is, the public is not ready to part with so much money for a Japanese product, when Swiss mades are the same price, or for slightly higher. Seikos are NOT considered high end. And most people agree with that notion and are not willing to part with that kind of money for a (no offense intended) 'low end' watch. If Seiko can change their strategy, get a very good marketing push, and get the public to accept the new technology and justify the cost, they may have a chance, albeit a slight one. Just my two cents. It's opinions like this (you are not alone) which is the reason why Seiko's attempt to market the Grand Seiko in the USA has failed in the past. Regardless, watch collectors in Japan, and many die-hard Seiko collectors in the USA (and other parts of the world) are paying in excess of $3,000 to $6,000 on Grand Seiko and Spring Drive models. These watches are hardly "low end." Sales of these watches are on the rise, and some models are once again being market in the USA; particularly the Spring Drive.
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Post by timefinder on Nov 25, 2007 1:17:17 GMT -5
Knight Watchman:
My comments came in bold and underscore? I thought I used plain text. Or did you pull an Admin trick on me? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by timefinder on Nov 25, 2007 1:17:57 GMT -5
BTW, do you have figures on how many spring dive watches were sold in the US for 2006 to current year?
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Post by Knight Watchman on Nov 25, 2007 1:31:21 GMT -5
Knight Watchman: My comments came in bold and underscore? I thought I used plain text. Or did you pull an Admin trick on me? ;D ;D ;D No Admin tricks here; anyone can quote and change the font size or make bold selected text. I do this all the time just to emphasize which part of the quote I am specifically addressing. I don't have any sales numbers at hand; I just see the number of high end Seiko's that members here and at other forums are buying and displaying. If I can find the article about Grand Seiko sales in the US, I will post it. Claims that Seiko will once again attempt to market the Grand Seiko in the USA have surfaced in various places, but are only rumor to my knowledge; I have not read this in any official Seiko site.
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Post by timefinder on Nov 25, 2007 10:31:06 GMT -5
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Post by eddie on Nov 25, 2007 15:39:05 GMT -5
Perfection is the word who comes to mine Sir Knight ...just exquisite ...............
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