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Post by wilfreb on Nov 29, 2007 13:55:29 GMT -5
SEEMS LIKE THESE 2 MOVT ARE EXTREMELY ACCURATE AND TRUSTED IN THE NON-SWISS WATCH INDUSTRY. SOME SAY THEY HAVE BETTER VALUE THAN ETA IN TERMS OF DURABILITY AND ACCURACY. MIYOTA 8215 SEIKO 7S36 WHICH ONE DO YOU PREFER AND WHY?
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Post by jasman on Nov 29, 2007 15:04:16 GMT -5
I vote Miyota. At least I had a great experience with a Miyota powered Invicta I used to own.
From my experience, there is no way the Seiko 7S26 can even come close to the accuracy of any ETA movement (or the Miyota). The 2 Seikos I had all were about 15-20 secs fast per day. Another one I gave to my brother was also fast (about 10-15 sec/day). Maybe it was just coincidence that I ended up with all the fast ones.
I also read some horror stories about trying to regulate these movements, so I never tried doing it.
In the future I may try one of Seiko's other movement - the hacking/hand winding one (can't remember the number).
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Post by wilfreb on Nov 29, 2007 15:09:05 GMT -5
i voted miyota too, all my miyota powered watches have worked better than excellent.
i really dont have any experience with the 7s26 movt but i ordered a seiko 5 with that movt and after 3 months the watch stoped from nothing, so thats all i can say.
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Post by diver88 on Nov 29, 2007 15:52:10 GMT -5
I have nothing bad to say about either, my one and only Miyota (9210 Invicta) runs very well, about +8 secs a day. my Seiko SKX175 (7s26) ran about +10 or so a day for 7 years untill all at once it was -10 sec a day. I had a light sevice and for 2+ years it has been +2 sec a day . It had a problem a couple of months back where it just stopped, after a full service it has been consistent -1 to +1 sec a day. my watchmaker says you have to know how to regulate it and he knows apparently. I would not think twice about buying a watch with either movement, I've been told they are both considered "workhorse" movements. actually aren't these companies related? diver88 ;D
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Post by foghorn on Nov 29, 2007 16:07:53 GMT -5
I have ,and still do,own a few of each movement and have found them quite similar in accuracy. In my experience the accuracy is nothing to write home about for either. I have had accurate examples of each but in general they both fall far short of any ETA offerings. This is based on a few years of owning all 3 examples. If I had to choose I would go with Seiko despite the lack of hand winding capability. (for the 7s23/36)
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Post by boscoe on Nov 29, 2007 16:10:48 GMT -5
I voted for M in this choice, but the new Seiko movement in the Alpinist and 6R15 (which I think is the movement designation) diver is far superior to either, IMHO
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Post by Triton on Nov 29, 2007 18:19:55 GMT -5
My pick is Miyota,I've been wearing my grand diver the past couple of days on and off and I'm still amazed with its accuracy with only a few hours of wear.
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Post by eddie on Nov 29, 2007 19:10:08 GMT -5
I voted Seiko but, in my experience neither one is worth an accuracy comparo both very strong and reliable, both very basic entry level movements ...low end Orient mov. like the Cal 46P40 or the Cal 46E movements beat them both by far any day ;D
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Post by popeye on Nov 29, 2007 20:06:30 GMT -5
I have ,and still do,own a few of each movement and have found them quite similar in accuracy. In my experience the accuracy is nothing to write home about for either. I have had accurate examples of each but in general they both fall far short of any ETA offerings. This is based on a few years of owning all 3 examples. If I had to choose I would go with Seiko despite the lack of hand winding capability. (for the 7s23/36) Good call shipmate!!
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Post by shimside11 on Nov 30, 2007 1:06:51 GMT -5
I have both and I would have to go with the Miyota. My 8215s tend to be more accurate, and the lack of a hand winding mechanism on the Seiko is really starting to annoy me as the months go past. I can go through and top off all of my autos except the Seiko.
I'm sure that I could regulate the Seiko, as the beat seems to be consistant. It's about 20 seconds fast per day, but the unregulated Miyotas appear to be within 5 to 15 seconds with no tinkering at all.
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Post by Birdman on Nov 30, 2007 1:33:44 GMT -5
I have no Seikos to compare but my 8215's are all under 10 seconds per day fast and my 8205 is 1 second per day fast. This is without any type of regulation. In my case at least they are as accurate as any eta's or the sw200 I have.
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Post by 60minman on Nov 30, 2007 16:09:59 GMT -5
The 8215 hands down.
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Post by boscoe on Nov 30, 2007 23:25:34 GMT -5
The new Seiko movement is hand-wind AND hacking. Good stuff!
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Post by MacDaddy on Dec 1, 2007 0:19:39 GMT -5
I own both and my Miyota has been far more accurate than the Seiko.
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Post by bullandvodka on Dec 1, 2007 0:56:46 GMT -5
The new Seiko movement is hand-wind AND hacking. Good stuff! IMO, hacking is absolutely essential if you really care about accuracy. If the movement doesn't hack, then its already got the wrong time before you even push down on the crown.
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