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Post by MikeS on Nov 14, 2007 0:03:40 GMT -5
buyn it and burn it!
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Post by misfitx on Nov 14, 2007 5:08:53 GMT -5
I see it as a piece of history kind of like hitler's car and stuff like that. Just because you own it doesn't mean you believe in what it stands for.
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Post by tigeranteater on Nov 14, 2007 7:14:24 GMT -5
I woudn't go anywhere near it. I just think it would be too evil. If someone tried to give it too me I wouldn't take it. Maybe the best thing is to sell it and distribute the money to victims family. As many as there were they would all get way less than a dollar.
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Post by larry on Nov 14, 2007 7:40:48 GMT -5
I wonder if it's a fake, like OJ's.
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Post by Scott D on Nov 14, 2007 8:14:11 GMT -5
I wonder if it's a fake, like OJ's. I doubt it - unfortunately. The man had billions of dollars at his disposal, unlike OJ. I think this is the one time I would wish for it to be a fake. Considering the money to pay for it was either gotten from or was supposed to be used for his countries people......
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Post by idriveanm5 on Nov 14, 2007 8:42:31 GMT -5
Che Guevara wore a Rolex, a Submariner I believe. What do you guys think about that?
I think more than the whole "dictators wear Rolex watches" thing is the fact that these watches appeal to people who've made it to the top of their ladder (ok, so maybe the rungs are the corpses of their opposition, details details...). Sure, they could by a Patek or a JLC or some other watch that's much more complicated, but chances are when people around them saw a watch like that, they wouldn't know the difference from a Seiko. I think the underlying point here is that folks in that sort of position may wear Rolex because when someone sees your watch, they know it's a Rolex. Some people (like Che, probably) wear Rolex for the ruggedness and accuracy, but others have different motivations. Keep in mind I'm talking about the famous lot - not the rest of us!
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Post by Scott D on Nov 14, 2007 8:50:21 GMT -5
Che Guevara wore a Rolex, a Submariner I believe. What do you guys think about that? I think more than the whole "dictators wear Rolex watches" thing is the fact that these watches appeal to people who've made it to the top of their ladder (ok, so maybe the rungs are the corpses of their opposition, details details...). Sure, they could by a Patek or a JLC or some other watch that's much more complicated, but chances are when people around them saw a watch like that, they wouldn't know the difference from a Seiko. I think the underlying point here is that folks in that sort of position may wear Rolex because when someone sees your watch, they know it's a Rolex. Some people (like Che, probably) wear Rolex for the ruggedness and accuracy, but others have different motivations. Keep in mind I'm talking about the famous lot - not the rest of us! I agree.. These are people that really care about what people think of them, so I don't doubt they're into it for the 'status' aspect. They could probably care less about why the watch is so popular or why it's seen as 'the best'. They just care that they project the right image to impress. I'll step on a limb & say these guys definitely are not WTF calibre people....
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Post by bullandvodka on Nov 14, 2007 11:23:05 GMT -5
Che Guevara wore a Rolex, a Submariner I believe. What do you guys think about that? I think more than the whole "dictators wear Rolex watches" thing is the fact that these watches appeal to people who've made it to the top of their ladder (ok, so maybe the rungs are the corpses of their opposition, details details...). Sure, they could by a Patek or a JLC or some other watch that's much more complicated, but chances are when people around them saw a watch like that, they wouldn't know the difference from a Seiko. I think the underlying point here is that folks in that sort of position may wear Rolex because when someone sees your watch, they know it's a Rolex. Some people (like Che, probably) wear Rolex for the ruggedness and accuracy, but others have different motivations. Keep in mind I'm talking about the famous lot - not the rest of us! That begs the question, what would people pay for Che Guevara's sub? I see teenagers wearing Che t-shirts. More people would want his watch. He is now seen as something like the James Dean of revolutionaries. Even the pictures of him subtly associate him with some of the Christ iconography. His recently increased popularity coincidently (or not) coincides with increased anti-American sentiment around the globe. So, he is both a hero to those wanting to do away with "the man" and a documented killer of non-combatants in Cuba and Bolivia. My personal opinion is that Dictators and Revolutionaries aren't interested in high horology on their wrist (maybe in their treasure chest). So PP, JLC, AP, etc. don't make the list. What they want is an utterly dependable time keeper that dresses up for the high life of running your own country and dresses down for jungle/desert guerrilla warfare. Rolex's build quality/dependability assures them that they won't require a battery change in the bush or miss their scheduled roundup/execution of counter-revolutionaries because their watch got wet or a grain of sand in the mechanism. I think that the "status" symbol of Rolex works against them because they often want to be viewed as "of the people".
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Post by idriveanm5 on Nov 14, 2007 11:54:36 GMT -5
I think B&V's last statement in his last paragraph depends entirely upon the person. Some public figures couldn't give a toss about being "one of the people."
Ever notice that we don't see Rolex watches on the ever-expanding field of Presidential candidates? Probably goes to support B&V's last statement, in my opinion.
Then again, who was it that made the Day Date Presidential popular? Exactly......
The only time I ever saw a Rolex on a elected official was a Democratic Representative from the Dayton region. He's no longer in office, but he was when I "caught" him several years back. Looked to be a TT Datejust from the 80's, so nothing outlandish...
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Post by timefinder on Nov 14, 2007 12:30:45 GMT -5
I think B&V's last statement in his last paragraph depends entirely upon the person. Some public figures couldn't give a toss about being "one of the people." Ever notice that we don't see Rolex watches on the ever-expanding field of Presidential candidates? Probably goes to support B&V's last statement, in my opinion. Then again, who was it that made the Day Date Presidential popular? Exactly...... The only time I ever saw a Rolex on a elected official was a Democratic Representative from the Dayton region. He's no longer in office, but he was when I "caught" him several years back. Looked to be a TT Datejust from the 80's, so nothing outlandish... For the Presidential and/or Political candidates in most countries, is that they want to connect to the average person for their votes, and most people can not or are not willing to spend that kind of money on a watch.
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